I m turning more and more towards nihilism. As of late, I see both sides of everything, and it makes me realize how transient and relative all is. Man trully is the measure of all things and nothing has fixed meaning/value outside of man.(except for gravity etc) Categories such as good/bad, perfect/imperfect, beautiful/ugly dont exist. I wonder, do You believe in any objective truth and value,( for example, God, but it doesnt have to be God) and what gives you the confidence to believe in it? How do you ignore the argument that religion is perhaps a great evolutionary tactic for group survival, as it ensures that all humans feel the need to believe in a higher, objective power, which guides them and provides a stable system of reward and punishment? Is it possible that everything stems from our fear that we are completely free in an empty universe, without direction? I realize my argument might have many limitations. But can you point them out independently of religion?|||I had a pretty gray view of the world before my son was born. I was so bored with all the repetitive crap in the world, so fixed on the idea that I was just another Lemming about to be led off the ledge. I really never thought of myself as a mother so when I did get pregnant I still wasn't really sure what to do with this new life inside of me. When he was born my whole outlook on human relationships changed. Just being with this little human being and realizing that we..WE create life it's such a magical thing. So when you ask this question about truth, beauty, value and morality... of course they exist... in every child. It is only after we are objected to experiences that we start to believe that these ideals are meaningless. When I look into my sons eyes I see peace. So I know that it exists in everyone of us.|||How do you ignore the argument that religion is perhaps a great evolutionary tactic for group survival, as it ensures that all humans feel the need to believe in a higher, objective power, which guides them and provides a stable system of reward and punishment?|||I can see why you would feel this way. I have found a way to believe in
nothing and everything at the same time. I love some of the Buddhist
ideas, karma, etc...a God who loves me no matter what....who doesn't
like that? At the same time I can't see that there is any order to things.
It seems like we are just bent on self destruction. On the plus side,
I try to live my life in a way that gives me peace. I'm nice to people, kind
to animals, and nature. I think that in the end the only person you have
to live with is yourself. Live your life in a way that makes you happy. Peace.|||Do you have a pet who loves you unconditionally? As in when you get home from work? What do you see in his response to you?
The things you speak of are not objective or yet tangible to our "modern" science but they are things that can speak to our heart when we are receptive to them. This is what we all seek...|||Beauty, value, and morality are absolutely subjective. This is sometimes masked by the fact that most people are only exposed to others that share these same beliefs. Another question this goes into is how far into relativism you're willing to delve into. Most philosophers reject it on the terms that some societies say rape is permissible, but our own used to believe slavery was permissible. Truth, however, is objective. It's just finding the truth and proving that it is indeed the truth that is the problem for our subjective natures.|||subjective
totally subjective|||Hi,
I have gone through the same phase some time ago. It is a healthy phase to go through.
In my case it helped me to get rid of all the rubbish that others, society, institutions, conditioning, etc, tried to impose on me. Then I was seeking the answers within myself, and I found them. Beauty, value, and morality do exist on the objective plane, and it is worth seeking them.
I am now Rational Spirituality. You may read the Concept on the Dhaxem website.
Although conveyed only in February 2006 from the Source, it is already a major force amongst the thinking people.
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